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He's in AL near me, and we live in an expensive area. Overall, I'm very happy with the AL. He's got friends, participates in activities (after a tough time early on) and has a lot of help managing his many medical needs. But every six months or so he flips out about how much it all costs and says that if he moved in with me then I could do all those things "for free."
I have talked him through the costs and options he has, including doing more things for himself, but he doesn't want to — he just wants to not pay the AL bill (I write the checks but from his account) because "it would be easier" if I "just handled it."
My husband I have demanding full time jobs, pets, a home with a mortage, a kid in college, and our own lives. We spend plenty of time with him and handle a lot of the fun extras so he doesn't have to worry about it (dinners out, his phone is on my plan, we make sure he has plenty of treats and creature comforts, including hobby supplies, a nice computer, a nice TV, etc)
I've told him that he could potentially move to a more independent living situation but then we'd need to pay for cleaning services, nursing care, he'd have to do his own laundry or send it out, etc. He's not interested. He just wants to complain about how much they are charging him at AL.
And for the record, he has the money — not a ton, but enough to hopefully last the rest of his life. I don't care about inheritance or anything like that, I just want him to be comfortable and safe and not wait on him hand and foot!
But it's a constant refrain and it's draining. We had a Thanksgiving brunch with him this morning and all he could talk about was how it's stupid that he has to pay for medical help at AL when he has insurance (Medicare plus a drug suppliment). But Medicare doesn't pay for AL, as I keep telling him.
And yeah, this stuff is expensive. But it's not my fault! I don't set the prices! And unless he wants to move somewhere cheaper or give up some of the services, it's like listening to a broken record. One that keeps accusing me of wasting his money because he's in AL and not in my house with me handling his needs 24-7.
I want to tell him I'm not going to dicuss this anymore but since it is his money, it seems unethical to refuse to talk about where it's going. But I just can't keep having the same conversation over and over again… any advice?

Have you bluntly told him that living with you is not a solution. "No Dad, you cannot come live with me. Thats not an option for many reasons. So we will not talk about it anymore. This AL is the best option for you." If there is some Dementia going on here, there is no reasoning with him. They become self-centered. Think of toddlers, thats how they act. When he gets started, leave. Say goodbye and hang up the phone. Have you asked the staff how he is when ur not around? I bet is one happy soul. He is guilt tripping you. Ignore it. He is where he needs to be this time of his life. Your entitled to yours.
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WHAT solutions?
There are no solutions to this.

Stop discussing this with him.
He is in the care he needs.
Nothing here is going to change and he needs to be told that in no uncertain terms.
You need to stop these endless discussions that give him false hopes and keep him going on and on about it.
He is where he belongs. He doesn't belong in IL when he can't even manage his checks.
If it is too much for you in fact he needs to put out more money for a Fiduciary to handle that side of things. When the money is gone he will move to a Medicaid facility.
This is the sad truth of aging in America. And it is no one's fault. This is what he saved his money for and is spending it for. Take the burden off by doing the bills or by hiring a Fiduciary. It helped my brother to have a monthly accounting so he could see he was unlikely to outlive his money.

But don't pretend that any of this is going to get BETTER. It just isn't. And dependent on attitude and enabling it could get a good deal worse. Just my humble opinion. Just keep reassuring him that this is what his money is meant for. People who spent a lifetime saving often get focused on MONEY MONEY MONEY. So limit discussions of that and tell him you will not discuss it further.
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Tell him that you aren't interested in such a solution and then change the subject. Keep changing the subject. If he keeps bringing it up then tell him you're sorry but you'll be leaving until he can understand what "no" means. Eventually he will stop nagging. FYI it is not about the cost. He has romanticized in his head what it would be like to live with you. No one loves being in AL.
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Ignore his complaints, leave/hang up the phone when he starts whinging. His complaints are irrelevant. At least it’s only every handful of months.

Never ever even think about moving him into your home.
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Broken brain. Or narcissist. Does not matter which, the solution is NOT to move in with you. A person with normal cognitive processes would see this and he CANNOT. So no is the complete answer. I can’t possibly do that. To quote others, you didn’t make him old or cause decline. He is unable to understand or unwilling. So don’t try to explain. You love him but it’s not required to set yourself on fire to keep others warm. You know that he can’t change, so you have to be the changed response. No, or leave the situation.
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Next time your dad complains about the cost of his AL, just remind him that he needs to be grateful that he has the money to cover the costs as not everyone is so fortunate and have to live in not very nice facilities.
And if he continues complaining just tell him that you'll come back another time when he's in a better mood as you don't want to listen to his complaining and leave....every time he does it.
Perhaps over time he'll get the message and just be grateful that he's in a nice place with children who love and care about him.
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Money is the excuse he’s using to move in with you.

Just tell him he has enough money . Living with you is not an option and that it will not be discussed any longer .

If he keeps it up then leave .

He knows where the money is going , no need to keep having the conversation.
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Work out an estimated ‘cost’ to him if he moved in with you. Include your foregone salary and the long term future benefits for you from working (superannuation etc), plus the probable increase in your salary if you stay in the job. Include in-home caregiver costs to allow you to continue your current social activities. Include caregiver costs for any activity that would require 2 people, or would require care in the night when you are asleep – the equivalent of staff 24/7. Include cooked food delivery etc, for when his requirements would be different. Include any modifications that might be needed to the house – immediately, a first year expense so that he could even get in the door without paid help. Over-estimate, don’t under- estimate.

D is comparing AL with his idea that you “could do all those things FOR FREE”. Give him a surprise about just how much you intend that it would cost him. Why should you bear the cost when he has the money for his own care?
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Tell him you've already discussed it and if he keeps bringing it up, you are going t have to reduce your visits, etc. Shut him down when he brings it up again: "Remember what I said Dad? Moving in with us is not an option. If you don't change the subject, I'm leaving/hanging up/etc." And then do it. Rinse and repeat.
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Tell your father what I told my mother: I love you very much but I cannot possibly care for all your needs myself in my home. I work full time and nobody is home all day, so you moving in with me is NOT AN OPTION. Then change the subject. Be honest. Dad doesn't have to like it but he has to accept the fact that you are not his answer to old age, period. When he brings up the subject again, give him the exact same spiel you gave him last time, word for word, then leave his presence or get off the phone if he won't stop.

You have to establish your boundaries with dad and let him know for CERTAIN he cannot move in with you. Otherwise, in his mind, it's an option! Stand your ground in a loving way w/o going into great detail about why it won't work. It just won't.

Good luck to you.
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