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Mom had a pulmonary function test recently. That went fine, the pulmonologist was actually surprised her results were I guess better than he expected.
She had the 6 minute walk test today however and needed supplemental oxygen throughout. The therapist said 2 liters got her back to recovery quickly. She said she would likely get an oxygen concentrator vs tanks. And that it would be pulse rather than continuous.
We will be seeing the pulmonologist again and go over all of this. In the meantime, what questions should we be asking to prepare. Anything that we should definitely do or don't (other than smoking or flames!)
I'm reading portable ones aren't generally covered. I'm assuming the DME folks will educate us.
Thanks for any tips as we embark on this newest "adventure."

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My mom was on oxygen. She had a large tank in her room that used room air to create oxygen, and two portable tanks. The portable tanks were a bit heavy so she hooked them to her wheelchair. Each portable tank could be filled from the large tank.
Make sure the oxygen company you use is willing to come out same day if there is a problem with tank or concentrator. A friend had a company that said they'd come out 3 days later. She got rid of them.
Have at least one or two other people who will be helping your loved one watch the demonstration from the oxygen company. Sometimes it's a very simple fix that a caregiver can do, or the company can talk them thru over the phone.
Also, have your loved one notify the local power company that she is on oxygen. She will get priority status for her area to have power returned.
A pulseox that goes on her finger will let her know her oxygen sats. She can put it on any time she wants to know. Have the nurse/doctor monitoring her health talk to her about when she needs to call the doctor if sats drop.
Lastly, oxygen dries a person's nose. A nurse has suggested Aquaphor to moisten the inside of the nostrils instead of Vaseline.
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When my Gram came to visit me in Colorado, she developed problems that oxygen solved. We ended up having larger oxygen tanks in the garage - in case the electricity went off and oxygen concentrators wouldn't work. We had a larger house-based oxygen concentrator. She also had smaller oxygen tanks for trips - she didn't have a prescription for a portable oxygen concentrator. So, we had to put signs on the house to let firemen and others know we had oxygen tanks at the house. We also had to make sure there were no open flames near the tanks.
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I’ve quickly scrolled through the answers here, so some of this could be a repeat. I will note that this is based on my dad’s experience in 2020-early 2022, well as mine as his caregiver,

Dad was diagnosed in Dec 2020 with pulmonary hypertension, COPD-emphysema, and heart failure. He was sent home from the hospital with oxygen. We quickly realized that pushing a wheelchair while trying to manage an oxygen tank was extremely difficult for an able-bodied person, let alone a frail elderly body. We decided on getting his own concentrator as well as a portable unit with long-lasting batteries for traveling out and about (we got the Inogen system; worked very well for him). We also got a UPS (universal power supply) to cover for any power outages. While the systems was somewhat expensive (I recall $4500 for the entire set-up), it was a godsend. Dad was still mobile in small increments, so moving around the house, and then later his room in assisted living, worked great with the concentrator. We simply got longer oxygen tubing to accommodate that. The portable unit - you want a higher capacity battery for those trips to the doctor, in case there’s a longer wait.

Dad was started at 2LPM (liters per minute), but actually needed 4LPM. Another reason for higher capacity batteries on the portable unit.

If you don’t already have an oximeter or 3, get some. They are very handy. Dad had an episode where despite being on 4LPM, his blood ox dropped to in the 40s (yes, panic time). We are rural, and at that point, Dad needed to be closer to medical services, which is when he moved into town and assisted living.

One thing that may take some time getting used to - breathing through the nose rather than mouth. Dad had gotten used to mouth breathing before oxygen - he needed a bigger pipe to get as much oxygen in there as possible, and I’m sure that developed over time. The first couple of months breathing through the nose on oxygen were challenging, but he eventually got used to it.

Best of luck!
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casole: Prayers sent.
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Perhaps look at this website:

https://www.lung.org/blog/supplemental-oxygen-faqs

In part, it says:

Supplemental oxygen does not cure lung disease, but it is an important therapy that improves symptoms and organ function. There are many benefits that can help you feel your best, including feeling less short of breath, less tired, sleeping better and having the ability to be more active.

Being prescribed oxygen can be overwhelming. We met with Dr. Rijive Tandon, pulmonologist at Ascension Medical Group in Chicago, to answer some of the most common questions people have about supplemental oxygen.

Things to Know When Using Oxygen Therapy

Why do I need supplemental oxygen? 

There are many reasons you may need supplemental oxygen.
One is if you are not getting enough oxygen (this is called hypoxia) after a bad case of pneumonia put you in the hospital. Symptoms of hypoxia include headaches, weakness, shortness of breath, fainting, chest pain, muscle pain and lightheadedness. Supplemental oxygen will help with all those symptoms. If you were sick with pneumonia or COVID-19, supplemental oxygen may be needed in the short term, for three to six months, until your lungs heal.

If you have a history of lung disease, you may be prescribed supplemental oxygen long term. You may have COPD (a lung ventilation problem), interstitial lung disease (pulmonary fibrosis) or even heart disease that benefits from supplemental oxygen. With any of these diseases, patients can come in and describe feeling short of breath walking upstairs, walking longer distances or something that is a change in their norm. Healthcare providers often see this in long COVID patients as well. We have to think about what their baseline physiology is, and could they be at risk for low oxygen levels. If they are consistently below 89% on an oxygen saturation, that is when we really think about oxygen supplementation.

What should I expect if I decide to use supplemental oxygen? 

The best thing is many patients will feel a little or a lot more energy. They'll be able to walk further. They'll be able to accomplish their activities of daily living with more ease. They will have less muscle pain. Low oxygen levels don't just affect the lungs, it affects the brain, the muscles and the whole body. Using oxygen means the heart and body work less to accomplish the same goals.

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I see on a reply you made to one post that your mother wakes up every morning with a headache. That is a sign of hypoxia. Has she been tested for sleep apnea? She may need a CPAP with a bleed-in line for oxygen. Or is she a mouth breather? If her nighttime oxygen is supplied by a nasal cannula, it won’t do any good if she’s a mouth breather. She should be using a mask over her nose and mouth. An overnight oxygen test will give her doctor a lot of information and it can be done at home. A sleep study needs to be done at a sleep center to determine if she has sleep apnea.
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casole Dec 28, 2024
Thank you PennyKay. I've suspected she has sleep apnea. The question is whether she would agree to an at home test. I know she would not do an overnight. Then there is the question of whether she would use/adapt to another device. She already uses a feeding tube and now the oxygen will be coming.

We have a follow up with the pulmonologist on 1/17 so will bring up the sleep testing again, I mentioned it at her first appt bc he asked if she had headaches in the morning..

Thanks again.
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There is a larger concentrator that is covered by Medicare. It has a portable, refillable unit that comes with it. 2L will allow the portable to work for 4 hours, at least…a little longer since she uses pulse instead of continuous. Any medical supply store that provides this service should be able to help you find the right one. I’m sure you know that no one should be smoking in your Mom’s home, and a gas stove should be swapped out for electric.
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I’m on supplemental oxy and have a portable for when I occasionally need it. Oxy thru the night, and an occasional refresher on daytime. I have outlets in my LR & BR, with tubing long enough to get to kitchen & bathroom. Insurance covers MOST of the concentrator; I pay for the portable. Takes a little time to work out a
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casole Dec 28, 2024
Thank you. How much is the portable monthly? Do you lease it? I'm hoping maybe she will just need it at night. She wakes up every morning with a headache and maybe this will help...
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Since she is breathless with walking, she can ask the pulmonologist about pulmonary rehab. It is about 2 hours weekly up to 8 weeks or so. Insurance covers because it is well studied not only by boositing quality of life but also reduces frequency of hospitalization. RTs and PTs will educate, put her on a slow walk treadmill or bicycle with full moniters. For the first 30 minutes they exercise her to build strength so that her shortness of breath becomes manageable. Classes are usually at one of the larger hospitals and they hook her up to their wall oxygen.
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I am a respiratory therapist. Insurance only covers a concentrater, replacement nasal cannula every few months and a couple of small tanks each month that each last a couple of hours. That is enough for doctor visits but not enough to go on leisurely excursions. If she goes out for the holidays, you have to pack the yieldy concentrator with you. She cannot lift it herself.
The machine has some noise that can be reduced by using hoses ( tested at up to 100 feet). The drawback is the trip and fall factor. Hoses rarely need replacing. Oxygen will flow even if the hoses are kinked. Usually the concentrator comes with a bubbler humidifier that has a pop off whistle if the oxygen flow is overly kinked. Do not use the bubbler on a tank.

Insurance does not cover more because of a federal law in 2012 with competitive bidding. Suppliers are struggling with reimbursement. Liquid oxygen canisters were used up till 10 years ago then Insurance no longer covered it and no supply company is making it. The SOAR act is in Congress, to be voted on soon. You can contact your state lawmakers asking to support this act in an effort to increase funding for more portable oxygen.

If mom finds that her quality of life is diminished because she cannot get out of the house. There are portable concentrators that cost up to $5000 that she can purchase. They are not regulated by the FDA and oxygen concentration can vary. It is best to purchase from the medical oygen supplier who knows the brands rather than playing Russian Roulette online. If she gets one, she should test her saturation levels just like she got tested in the office at rest and with 6 minutes of walking

Someone mentioned about loss of power. 2 tanks should hold out up to 4 to 5 hours. For disasters, her option is to contact her local police on a non emergency line to find local shelters with electricity. If a disaster is imminent, she needs to evacuate or seek those shelters before a storm, or if she is in an area with natural gas, she installs a generator. Another option is to go to a hospital. I have seen medical admits post hurricane just for the oxggen.
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casole Dec 21, 2024
Wowwww, this is a whole education. I had no idea about the SOAR act and will write to my legislators now.


She doesn't go on trips or anything but enjoys outings to Ocean State Job Lots and the occasional drive to get out. I know she'd like to walk more but hadn't due to being so breathless, but now it seems it will be ultra expensive to get something portable. Wtf.... Let's just relegate a whole bunch of people to bring shut ins....??


Should she also work with a respiratory therapist regularly also do you think? We will have a follow up soon with the pulmonologist and will ask him as well. Hoping he can order home visits.


Thank you to everyone who responded.
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I would suggest having a list of questions for the DME provider, as their tendency might be to drop things off and leave. Tell them you are new to using oxygen and make sure you understand how to switch from the concentrator to a tank and how to change the regulator(control on top of tank). There are different sizes of tanks, which can make it easier when you go out. Because she won’t be on continuous oxygen, the tanks will last longer. Make sure they leave you plenty of additional tubing, cannulas(nose pieces), etc.

It’s easier to manage the tubing if you don’t have a walker, but people learn how to do it. You should also avoid using an electric razor, electric toothbrush, hairdryer with oxygen on. If your mom gets too short of breath in these situations, it helps to sit and dry your hair, etc.

If you don’t have one, I would recommend getting a pulse oximeter to monitor her oxygen levels. Good luck, and hope this helps her feel better.
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The only thing I will add is that even with an oxygen concentrator you will still need several oxygen tanks as back up in case you were to lose power. But if you have a generator you won't need the back-up tanks.
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My dad has COPD and getting on oxygen was a godsend for his quality of life and mental wellbeing as much as physical. I really hope your mom has the same experience!

As for the practical stuff, the tubing took some getting used to for him as yes, it can get tangled in chair legs, etc. The tubing should be replaced regularly (once a week or two) which keeps the oxygen flowing better but also, it's a little stiffer when it's new and slightly less tangle-able.

It depends what she's been prescribed, but my dad's on oxygen 24/7 so he showers with his on, yes. It makes showering slightly easier for him (though still exhausting).

I agree with lealonnie1, the portable oxygen is expensive but helpful too for getting out and about. We bought my dad's one on Facebook Marketplace for half the original price in like-new condition. Definitely worth it to increase his feelings of independence and adjust to the feeling of being "leashed" as he calls it.

In terms of safety, I also recommend having a clear plan in place for power outages - making sure that extra tanks are readily accessible and full, etc. And going over an emergency plan for if there is a fire in the house.

Very happy to answer any other questions if you have any!
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Thank you. I am wondering how much of an adjustment it is for folks in getting around the house with the tubing etc, do they shower with it etc? I worry about her getting tangled in it or tripping over it. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for that part?


We still need to see the pulmonologist for follow up as he has to write the order/prescription and I hope there will be education during set up and that it isn't just dropped off at the door.


Of course her test was Thursday evening and it's Christmas week and this guy spends a lot of time doing hospital rounds. The desk person sent him an email and messaged him today to get her seen as soon as possible.


She's understandably very anxious and rather depressed about it all. As am I. Which is too bad because her anxiety was getting better with counseling and meds. She just can't catch a break. Though I pray the oxygen gives her some relief from the shortness of breath.


Sigh.
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Plug the concentrator unit in, put the cannula on moms nose, and that's that. Ask for the cannulas that have foam cushioning on them so you can adjust it over moms ears. They get sore after awhile. I bought my own concentrator because my copay was $21 a month. I only need my oxygen while sleeping.

I don't think Medicare covers portable oxygen. The tanks are very heavy and unsuitable for travel, imo. You can buy portable oxygen units in a backpack or tote bag, but know they are quite expensive. Look on Facebook Marketplace for used units, or Craigslist.

I can't think of specific questions to ask the doctor bc oxygen use is pretty cut and dry. Oh, don't use Vaseline or petroleum jelly on moms face bc it can be combustible.

Good luck to you.
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