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I am packing up Parent's house solo. They both passed in 2022: My Dad in Jan & my Mom: day after Christmas. Diff emotions around both. Working thru via articles, YouTubes, chats with my Sister, almost daily. My Mom is hopefully at peace now. Decades of Alcoholism, Mania, Borderline, NPD...tail end Early Onset. Damaging behaviors. She was never nice or close to the Stepsis & 2 Stepbros.
She passed in their home via accident. She was not limber & had a fall. Only 79. Had she been exercising ...would have had years ahead of her.
I used to share selectively that she was a Hoarder but not quite what you see on TLC. You could walk in & out of every room, but every drawer & closet was jam packed. Well, that is an understatement. Shocking to say the least. Rude awakening every day I am there. I have supplies & a system. To help my brain I make a "to do list." So much to take in & process. Before long I will have Junk King and another company dropping a roll off dumpster truck which I will have for a week...to dump trash into.
So, I spent 3 days there within a week.
Last Monday, spent 5 hrs there- up-back home (2 hr drive each way). This past weekend, I "worked" there on Fri 5.5, stayed overnight in a hotel, and back up for 5 more hrs on Sat.
Every drawer & closet & cupboard is chalk full of items that don't go together... could not even walk into her master closet: clothes piled high on the floor-many new-with receipts, bags, tissue paper...greeting cards-boxes of them. To clear & properly bag the floor contents will take countless hours. And, every drawer I open has notes, and toys, and a hard candy, rubber bands.. an important document or 5. So, I have to sift thru everything with a fine tooth comb.
Wild insight into her mental illnesses-NPD mindset. A tough physical job I have in front of me: pull together what is trash, what is donate, what is keepsake...
I keep one foot in front of the other. If she watching me do what I am doing...she would be screaming & cussing at me. "Do not touch that drawer. You are so intrusive." My Dad would say "Wow. Thank You Dear. You are welcome to help anytime!"
Not letting my Sis & her Hubs come out from AZ until end of next month to help. One of her Daughters is about to have a baby. I am good doing this grunt work, but it is physically & mentally taxing.. You all would be shell shocked. Back up on Thursday for the day. Back that night. I will do a hotel stay once a month so I can do 2 days back to back.
No rush on it, and yet the sooner I get done, I can put more of this behind me ...and feel more free. I still feel in chains. She would love that....

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A refreshing reminder for myself.
I'm a senior whose mom luckily kept as little as possible rather than have to dust it, keep track of it, or misplace it. Everything she had was used pretty regularly or gone.
Growing up I thought we were either Japanese or Swedish for all the clear sightlines except for the tasteful but very sparsely placed treasured 5 or 6 select items per room. All drawers and closets were not crowded. My parent's storage bin only held some luggage, a couple of beach chairs, a beach umbrella and winter coats during summers.
Every few weeks I cull, throw out, donate, or give away. Oh, the thrill of seeing an empty draw and emptying shelves that once had 100's of books.
It's very liberating.

My in-laws on the other hand, may their sweet souls rest-in-peace. It was a cruel and sad punishment to be left with that mountainous collection of broken bits and pieces of nothing.
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Beatty Jan 2023
Oh please how do I get that Japanese or Swedish style!

I love IKEA but have to ban myself from more than 1 visit a year.. way too many things come home. I am a bit of a Bowerbird - seem to collect & keep bits of this & that catch my eye.

You are right about leaving mountains for others (I love the way you put it). Unfortunately I think too many leave clearing out just too long, until they can no longer do it. 😔
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eat-pray-love, I remember emptying my parents house. What a chore that was and here they were quite neat an organized. I had to shake all of Dad's books just in case something was left in a book, he had like 200 books.

I called numerous estate sale companies but they weren't interested unless the items were high end collectables. Guess the items had to sit in the White House or one of the Queen's palaces before they would even ring the door bell :P

One day I need to have a plumber out to fix a problem, and he remarked about my parent's very old curve glass china cabinet. I could tell he was drawn to antiques. The cabinet wasn't a passed down family heirloom, so I just gave the cabinet him. He was so happy, and that made me feel good.

Also, I had a handyman who I knew, help me clear out Dad's workshop, and attic. I had already took home some of Dad's tools to my house, and offered the handyman whatever tools he would want.

Salvation Army came out for the rest of the furniture, but only took what was on the main floor, they couldn't go upstairs because of the U shape of the stairs due to a risk of damaging wall because of the stairs.

I was selling the house "as is" as the thought of remodeling was too time consuming, and a contract eventually came in and the buyer [who was a flipper] said it was ok to leave whatever I had left in the house, he would take care of it. I should have taken up his option to leave what furniture and misc. and rest of the garage stuff that I hadn't clean out, as I was mentally exhausted.

Oh, on good weather days, one can also put out on curbside with a note saying free. That also worked for me.

Good luck, I know what you are going through.
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NeedHelpWithMom Jan 2023
Great ideas!
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Wow. Amazing you are doing this all alone. If my ex husband hadn't come to help with a dumpster, I would have been there forever, and I had already gone through a lot before my mom died. She wasn't a hoarder, but so many years of stuff. My dad kept every single piece of paper for at least 60 years. I found the house plans for MY house in a box with the plans for their house, my brother's house, and all of our school records. I hate thinking about those days. But it makes me think about how much of what I have is not worth anything to anyone else. My taste, my colors, my crazy disorganization. I have to get it together so my sons will not experience what I did.
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eat-pray-love Jan 2023
So, your Dad was more the hoarder? I get being sentimental all the day long, but this is just too much.
Shows me the internal struggle my Mom was experiencing. Saddens me to think she felt everything was important to keep. Decades old expired credit cards in those baseball trading card type of albums with the transparencies. Shoeboxes full of greeting cards. 8 place settings of beautiful "Eternal" Lennox China never unboxed... receipts...scraps of paper...little toys..rubber bands & tongue depressors used as book marks...collections of so much of all of everything. Tons of silverware...every kitchen drawer was a junk drawer...little toys...paper clips...a million light bulbs.. on & on & on
.... Mindblowing.. but starting to feel I am making a small dent.. Hopefully not losing days of life doing this... I have 15 legal boxes of books loaded up for 1st donation at the local library end of month. Going to be handful of mos of loading up these boxes until I get all of them out... My Sis will come end of next month..but I want to have a handful of days there prior to her visit.. so we can work on garage..and part of her master closet.... So many emotions...most of them are sadness-some anger--resentment...but then understanding that she didn't have the capacity to purge.. I have to move forward ...knowing I am doing what needs to be done...
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My Mom is a hoarder, too. I actually look forward to the day I can get a dumpster out here to get rid of all the crap. Some might be valuable, yes - she has a lot of antiques and knick knacks - and they will go into a storage locker to be gone through later. But there are hydro bills from 1972. And elastics. Her mother's clothes. Lamp parts. Coffee carafes from broken coffee makers. Doilies. So.Many.Doilies. Everything has to be kept, and it's going to be a LOT of junk to go through, but I am going to be ruthless! If my siblings want things, they can come help!
One thing I've learned is that nothing is important enough to keep around just to clutter up your life. Take a photo of things that remind you of a good time or place, then toss it! I actually carry a lot of resentment, though, for "things" as they have always been more important to her than her kids, her husband, real life...
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Beekee Jan 2023
Doilies! Faded, mildewed doilies!!!!! I never want to see another doily again! I did keep one snowflake, and a long one to wear as a scarf. The rest went in the garbage.
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I am high-fiving you from afar!!

Another solo house-emptier here. My only regret was not walking around with a camera to document the sheer amount of stuff to deal with. Childhood home, 40 years lived in, outbuildings and six storage units filled to the brim . I hired some helpers plus a charity - bless them!!! - and sole sibling did nothing but take items she wanted. Didn’t even take a scrap of paper to the recycle bin, she did nothing!

It was emotionally so hard as dad’s death was horrible, mom was sliding into dementia, and of course every scrap of childhood was there. Not to mention laundry receipts from the 50’s, bank statements from a great grandmother, I mean for gods’ sake!! Everything.

I developed my own method and it sounds like you’ve got yours, so no advice. Except watch your back, literally. I was careful not to lift heavy things of course, but the sheer AMOUNT of stuff I had to shift around did a number on my back for a little while.

The whole experience sucked but like you I knew it would suck and decided to plow through the Beast of Task of Awfulness and that’s what I did! Dove in and finished! Worked hard and fast, and wasn’t martyring myself - there was simply no other person to lead on that huge project! I did indulge in mango smoothies near daily plus one shot of whisky at the end of the day from their liquor cabinet ( which of course had to be cleared out )

In hindsight I’m really pissed that my entire immediate family led such big lives and then left the literal mess from their big lives behind for me to clean up. Like la-de-da life has been great now you get to clean it up , sweetie drudge. Boooo!!!

One thing I came away with was realizing that people do leave their crap behind for me to clean up - two exes and a roomate did that too - but on a funny note it’s cured me of having problems decluttering my own space now. I’m downright neurotic about Stuff now. Also, when people ask for volunteers for junk or garbage community cleanups I’m like ABSOLUTELY NOT! I’m through with cleaning up after other peoples’ careless messes! My volunteer stuff is more about animals and weeding invasive species and that sort of thing. After this monumental task you might feel the same way lol

Excuse the long answer but boy I feel ya. Been there!! Sending you another high five, a hug, and a mango smoothie. You’ve got this!!
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I rather do it alone. I did trash first and cleaning out of the refrigerator. Don't throw anything away that looks like its a part of something. You may end up finding that something. I took a room at a time. Use the relatives to cart it away. Find a Church or facility that takes clothing. I would bet the NH residents would love new clothes. Those that rely on the State for care because they have no family, get their clothing from donations. I was lucky there was a thrift shop near by. Just dropped stuff off there. Toys if unopened can be donated to Churches to give out next Christmas. Furniture can be donated to Habitat for Humanity. They sell it and the money is used to build housing. When you get a room cleaned out use that for the clothes. I had a box for each child and as I found something I thought they would want, I thru it in the box, pictures too.

Look thru all pockets. In books, albums. My Aunt squirreled her money in books and albums next to her chair. My cousin found $3000 when she cleaned out. My boss was asked to get some clothes out of a friends apt who had just gone into a NH. Boss found $400 in friends coat pocket.

I love cleaning out other peoples houses. If I knew years ago what I do now, I may have done it as a business.
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eat-pray-love Jan 2023
Thx & YES! I think & approach the same way... As a Realtor I often help purge-put away-stage.. But this is beyond what I thought it would be. Hopefully after 1 or 3 more times there...or 5-7, I will start to feel a clearing..physically & mentally.. Yes, to checking all pockets.. THIS is why impossible for me to let some 3rd party do the job. Not happening for anything.. I have my lists of roll off dumpster rental & Junk King & Donations: Vietnam Vets, Am Vets & Habitat. Not all will accept all of everything as you know. My Parents also have hundreds/thousands of books in their library. Hoping library will accept some ..off to call them now... Thx for sharing your pointers! <3
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Whenever I have something to donate I use Vietnam Veterans of America. They send a truck out to pick up items from your home.

You can schedule pick up date online.
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eat-pray-love Jan 2023
Thx! I have them on my list! Seems they will accept quite a bit...
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Wow! I feel your angst. You are certainly tackling a huge problem in a sensible way, inch by inch. I had/have a similar situation. At first I thought I could just toss out boxes of junk until I happened to see the title to mom's car mixed in with coupons, greeting cards, plastic bags, newspaper articles, and photos. Like you, I realized I would have to resign myself to sorting through everything. As if that weren't enough, so much of it was covered in cat pee. It stank to high heaven. I would stink after each session. Aargh. I hope you find peace knowing you are doing what needs to be done. Godspeed!
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againx100 Jan 2023
Oh no, not cat pee! Stinks to high heaven. When my grandparents passed, my mom and my aunt went up in the attic with a bottle of wine and went through things. Like you others, they had to look through everything since next to a ball of elastic bands there would be a silver candle holder. Luckily they were not hoarders, not at all, but still had to be super careful.
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EPL, still thinking of you as you plow through. Couple more things that helped me—black contractor plastic bags, once something went into a black bag I couldn’t see it anymore, it was very helpful just not looking at it again. I remember my dad telling me about a man who wore a similar size to him, also elderly. Dad wanted me to find this man after he’d died, and take him dad's suits and ties. Issue was, I had no idea who this man was, dad hadn’t bought a new suit in well over 20 years, and I felt sure no elderly man wanted or needed old, out of style suits. When I put those suits in a big black bag, I felt relief and thought of it no more. Also, I tried really hard to do the “touch it once” rule. Once I touched something, it was either keep, donate, or toss, and not touch again. There was one bed where I placed the items I just couldn’t decide. Relatives looked over that later and took what they wanted. Pictures, so many pictures! I brought them all home, sorted them and sent my siblings ones pertaining to them, them I had a young relative make a book (similar to Shutterfly) using our parents pictures. They’re all in one book now and the old tattered and torn photos are gone. Still wishing you peace as you muddle through it all…
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eat-pray-love Jan 2023
YES to Contractor trash bags! I started using them when my Mom gave up taking her trashcan out to the curb for pick up. Then took them to a dumpster behind the bakery few blocks away.
Your words validated my approach! "Also, I tried really hard to do the “touch it once” rule. Once I touched something, it was either keep, donate, or toss, and not touch again."
I have been "doing" this technique, because time is so precious. I'd like to live thru this experience & legit ring in the New Year..
Hopefully by Spring...
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My mother is still alive but residing in memory care. It was easy to throw away photo albums full of studio portraits of step-family I was never close to. For some reason I got bogged down in the decades of greeting cards, decided to keep cards from family and toss cards from friends, but that didn't seem right either. At the bottom of one box covered in cobwebs, I found something I thought I'd never see--a greeting card and letter from her father, who left the family in 1940 and we've never seen a picture of him. So that was a great find among all the junk. I'm afraid I'm just as sentimental and nostalgic as she is. For almost every item in the house, down to the tiniest scrap of ribbon or dishcloth, I can remember a story or just a feeling, because I've been seeing these things for 60 years. It's much harder with the emotions attached to every item. Easier when you can step back and see how faded and smelly everything is.
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